{"id":100006,"date":"2025-04-24T23:27:55","date_gmt":"2025-04-25T07:27:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.trendmicro.com\/internet-safety\/for-adults\/spotlight-sessions\/myth-vs-reality-scams-older-adults-2\/"},"modified":"2025-10-16T18:32:02","modified_gmt":"2025-10-17T02:32:02","slug":"digital-trail-online-fraud","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/www.trendmicro.com\/internet-safety\/for-adults\/spotlight-sessions\/digital-trail-online-fraud\/","title":{"rendered":"Hot on the Digital Trail: Policing the Evolving World of Online Fraud"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>[et_pb_section fb_built=&#8221;1&#8243; custom_padding_last_edited=&#8221;on|tablet&#8221; admin_label=&#8221;Header&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.16&#8243; background_color=&#8221;#f7f9f9&#8243; parallax=&#8221;on&#8221; custom_margin=&#8221;||0px||false|false&#8221; custom_margin_tablet=&#8221;&#8221; custom_margin_phone=&#8221;&#8221; custom_margin_last_edited=&#8221;on|desktop&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;20px||20px||true|false&#8221; custom_padding_tablet=&#8221;40px||||false|false&#8221; custom_padding_phone=&#8221;&#8221; collapsed=&#8221;off&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_row disabled_on=&#8221;on|on|off&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.22.2&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; custom_margin=&#8221;||0px||false|false&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;0px||0px||true|&#8221; global_module=&#8221;7138&#8243; locked=&#8221;off&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;4_4&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.16&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_text _builder_version=&#8221;4.17.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; min_height=&#8221;74px&#8221; custom_margin=&#8221;0px||0px||true|false&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;0px||0px||true|false&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n\t\t\t<!-- Flexy Breadcrumb -->\r\n\t\t\t<div class=\"fbc fbc-page\">\r\n\r\n\t\t\t\t<!-- Breadcrumb wrapper -->\r\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"fbc-wrap\">\r\n\r\n\t\t\t\t\t<!-- Ordered list-->\r\n\t\t\t\t\t<ol class=\"fbc-items\" itemscope itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/BreadcrumbList\">\r\n\t\t\t\t\t\t            <li itemprop=\"itemListElement\" itemscope itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/ListItem\">\r\n                <span itemprop=\"name\">\r\n                    <!-- Home Link -->\r\n                    <a itemprop=\"item\" href=\"https:\/\/www.trendmicro.com\/internet-safety\">\r\n                    \r\n                                                    <i class=\"fa fa-home\" aria-hidden=\"true\"><\/i>Home                    <\/a>\r\n                <\/span>\r\n                <meta itemprop=\"position\" content=\"1\" \/><!-- Meta Position-->\r\n             <\/li><li><span class=\"fbc-separator\">\/<\/span><\/li><li class=\"active\" itemprop=\"itemListElement\" itemscope itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/ListItem\"><span itemprop=\"name\" title=\"Hot on the Digital Trail: Policing the Evolving World of Online Fraud\">Hot on the Digital...<\/span><meta itemprop=\"position\" content=\"2\" \/><\/li>\t\t\t\t\t<\/ol>\r\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"clearfix\"><\/div>\r\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\r\n\t\t\t<\/div>\r\n\t\t\t\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][et_pb_row _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;4_4&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_code _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<script><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->\t$(document).ready(function () {<!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->    addSocialShareButtons();<!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->  });<!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] --><\/script><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] --><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] --><\/p>\n<div class=\"row\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->  <\/p>\n<div class=\"col-12 col-xl-10 offset-xl-1\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->    <\/p>\n<h1 class=\"interstate text-center\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->   Hot on the Digital Trail: <!\u2013- [et_pb_br_holder] -\u2013>Policing the Evolving World of Online Fraud<!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] --><\/h1>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->    <pee class=\"p-f16 text-muted text-center\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->      Recorded on April 14th, 2025<!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->    <\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] --><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->    <\/p>\n<div class=\"col-12 col-lg-10 offset-lg-1\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->      <pee class=\"p-f18 text-center\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] --> Join Trend Micro\u2019s Spotlight Session, hosted by Marike Kuyper, as she and Constable <strong>Brian Mason<\/strong> from the Edmonton Police Service explore the challenges of fighting online fraud globally. 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Looking to broaden his abilities, Brian entered the role of emergency services and as a first responder in 2011.  Continuously pushing to broaden his investigative abilities Brian joined Edmonton Police Service in 2017 as a constable in a patrol capacity testing investigative techniques and theories gleaned from his studies in archaeology.  <!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->    <\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->      <pee class=\"p-f18 mb-5\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        In 2019 Brian was injured in the line of duty remitting him to a desk role with the service.  During this time, he focused on advancing the scope of fraud investigations, with a particular emphasis on the global impact of fraudulent activities. Brian&#8217;s work in this area has involved linking numerous scams targeting Canadian citizens to large-scale organized crime syndicates, broadening the understanding of the scope and severity of financial crimes.<!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->      <\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->    <\/div>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->    <\/div>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->    <!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->    <!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->    <\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->    <!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->    <\/p>\n<h2 class=\"interstate mt-5\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->      Additional Resources<!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->    <\/h2>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->    <\/p>\n<ul class=\"p-f18\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->      <\/p>\n<li class=\"mb-3\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.ic3.gov\/\" target=\"_blank\">Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3.gov)<\/a> \u2013 A resource operated by the FBI, where victims of internet-related crimes can file complaints and access information about various scams.<\/li>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->      <\/p>\n<li class=\"mb-3\"><a href=\"https:\/\/antifraudcentre-centreantifraude.ca\/index-eng.htm\" target=\"_blank\">Canadian Anti-Fraud Centre<\/a> \u2013 A Canadian resource offering information and reporting tools for victims of fraud, helping to track and respond to scams.<\/li>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->      <\/p>\n<li class=\"mb-3\"><a href=\"https:\/\/reportfraud.ftc.gov\/\" target=\"_blank\">ReportFraud.ftc.gov<\/a> \u2013 The US federal government&#8217;s website where you can report fraud, scams, and bad business practices.<\/li>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->    <\/ul>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] --><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] --><\/p>\n<div class=\"social-share-buttons text-center justify-content-center align-items-center\"><\/div>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->    <!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->\t<\/div>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] --><\/div>\n<p>[\/et_pb_code][et_pb_code _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<div class=\"row\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->  <\/p>\n<div class=\"col-12 col-lg-10 offset-lg-1\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->    <\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->       <!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->    <\/p>\n<h2 class=\"interstate mt-5\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->     Ready to Enhance Your Scam Awareness?<!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->    <\/h2>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->    <!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->    <pee class=\"p-f18 mb-0\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->      Try our <strong>Trend Micro ScamCheck<\/strong> tool to spot suspicious links and guard against online threats \u2013 because even the savviest among us can use an extra layer of defense.<!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->    <\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->    <!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->    <pee class=\"p-18 text-center mb-0\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->      <a href=\"https:\/\/api.link.trendmicro.com\/events\/landing-page?product_id=4cc29&#038;source=iskf&#038;utm_medium=referral&#038;utm_content=scams-older-adults-trend-spotlight-session-2\" target=\"_blank\" class=\"btn btn-danger a-cta interstate w-50\">Get ScamCheck<\/a><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->    <\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->    <!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->    <pee class=\"p-f18 mb-0\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->      At Trend, everything we do is about making the world a safer place for exchanging digital information. Thanks for joining us, and stay safe online!<!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->    <\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->    <!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->\t<\/div>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] --><\/div>\n<p>[\/et_pb_code][et_pb_code _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<style><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->.transcript-toggle {<!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->  border: 1px solid #ccc;<!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->  border-radius: 6px;<!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->  padding: 1rem;<!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->  margin-top: 2rem;<!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->  background: #f9f9f9;<!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->}<!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] --><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->.transcript-toggle summary {<!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->  cursor: pointer;<!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->  list-style: none;<!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->}<!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] --><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->.transcript-toggle summary h2 {<!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->  font-size: 1.25rem;<!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->  margin: 0;<!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->  display: flex;<!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->  align-items: center;<!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->}<!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] --><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->.transcript-toggle summary::-webkit-details-marker {<!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->  display: none;<!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->}<!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] --><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->.webinar-transcript {<!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->  margin-top: 1rem;<!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->}<!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] --><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->.transcript-entry {<!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->  margin-bottom: 1rem;<!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->}<!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] --><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->.timestamp {<!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->  font-weight: bold;<!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->  color: #555;<!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->  margin-bottom: 0.2rem;<!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->}<!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] --><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->.transcript-text {<!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->  margin: 0;<!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->  line-height: 1.6;<!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->}<!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] --><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] --><\/style>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] --><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] --><\/p>\n<div class=\"row\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->  <\/p>\n<div class=\"col-12 col-lg-10 offset-lg-1\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->    <\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->       <!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->    <\/p>\n<details class=\"transcript-toggle\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->    <\/p>\n<summary><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/p>\n<h2 class=\"interstate mt-1\">Full Transcript<\/h2>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->    <\/summary>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->    <\/p>\n<div class=\"webinar-transcript p-f16\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <pee><strong>Speakers:<\/strong><\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/p>\n<ul><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <\/p>\n<li>Marike Kuyper (Trend Micro)<\/li>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <\/p>\n<li>Brian Mason (Edmonton Police Services)<\/li>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/ul>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/p>\n<div class=\"transcript-entry\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"timestamp mb-0 pb-0\">[01:00]<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\"><strong>Marike<\/strong>: Alright, I think we are live now, and I want to welcome you to Trend Micro\u2019s Spotlight session, where we aim to shine a revealing light on the hidden dangers lurking in today&#8217;s digital world. In each of these sessions, we bring together some leading voices from cybersecurity, law enforcement, government, and advocacy organizations to share real-world insights and practical tips.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">My name is Marike, and I\u2019m part of the consumer education team at Trend Micro. Today, we&#8217;re joined by Constable Brian Mason from the Edmonton Police Service. He&#8217;s a member of the Police Electronic Response Team.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">After being injured in the line of duty in 2019, Brian shifted to a desk role where he has dedicated himself to exploring and advancing the scope of fraud investigations, with a particular focus on their global impact and connection to organized crime. Pretty fascinating stuff.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">Brian knows a lot about scams and fraud, particularly those affecting and targeting Canadians. So welcome, Brian! It\u2019s a pleasure to have you with us today.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/div>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/p>\n<div class=\"transcript-entry\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"timestamp mb-0 pb-0\">[01:07]<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\"><strong>Brian<\/strong>: Thank you. It\u2019s my pleasure, to be honest.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/div>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/p>\n<div class=\"transcript-entry\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"timestamp mb-0 pb-0\">[01:10]<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\"><strong>Marike<\/strong>: So perhaps we could start by understanding a bit more about the Police Electronic Response Team. Can you tell us what this team does on a day-to-day basis?<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/div>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/p>\n<div class=\"transcript-entry\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"timestamp mb-0 pb-0\">[01:20]<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\"><strong>Brian<\/strong>: Absolutely. We originally began as a COVID initiative. The service really started seeing a lot of issues with members going off sick due to COVID exposure when everything was under lockdown.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">And obviously, if you have an entire squad of individuals confined to home, you&#8217;re looking at a significant manpower problem. But the problem is, the calls for service are still piling up.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">So, we needed the ability for what we were supposed to be providing our community to actually be engaged. But also, there\u2019s a resource that is untapped for people who could be doing investigations. And so, this unit was actually started as a pilot project to start taking some of those calls for service. The mandate was that anything that didn\u2019t need a physical police presence could still be investigated, but could be done remotely.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">Whether it\u2019s from a laptop or done from a division setting, we were able to still conduct those investigations. We originally started with just information files because it was still in its infancy. I was part of that initial pilot project, and we just kept pushing the envelope a little further and further.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">Now we really have the ability to take any call for service that does not require physical presence. Everything from your package thefts all the way up to robberies, assaults, major frauds, and things like that. All of it is done remotely from the division. If anything needs to be done outside of there, we can task other units, but we have the ability to actually do everything remotely and work through things step by step.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/div>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/p>\n<div class=\"transcript-entry\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"timestamp mb-0 pb-0\">[03:22]<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\"><strong>Marike<\/strong>: Sounds like it has a really broad scope to it.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/div>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/p>\n<div class=\"transcript-entry\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"timestamp mb-0 pb-0\">[03:25]<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\"><strong>Brian<\/strong>: Yeah, very much so. That\u2019s why we really started taking a lot of the fraud cases, because they tend to create a backlog. If everyone is tied up on a robbery in progress or a stabbing or bomb calls, the fraud cases that require an inordinate amount of work can stack up.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">Those types of cases tend to pile up because no one really has the ability to take them. But we do, because we\u2019re not beholden to the radio. So, when a priority call comes in, we don\u2019t rush out to deal with it. We can start fresh and go through it step by step.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/div>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/p>\n<div class=\"transcript-entry\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"timestamp mb-0 pb-0\">[04:11]<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\"><strong>Marike<\/strong>: So what inspired you to focus on digital crime within law enforcement?<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/div>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/p>\n<div class=\"transcript-entry\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"timestamp mb-0 pb-0\">[04:22]<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\"><strong>Brian<\/strong>: It was kind of a two-pronged approach. My background is in archaeology. I studied in the U.S., earned my degree, and worked in the field a little before moving to Canada. My background and the way I work is very detail-oriented.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">Fraud is nothing but detail\u2014it\u2019s about finding those tiny puzzle pieces and moving step by step. When I started looking into a couple of these cases, I wanted to expand and see what I could do. I didn\u2019t like the idea of just going call to call and doing the mundane work. I wanted to expand my role.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">The thing is, as I started doing that, I saw the real impact that fraud has on people. I also saw that the mindset of a lot of people was that it\u2019s the &#8220;greasy fraud&#8221;\u2014no one really wants to deal with it, and it\u2019s a victimless crime. I kept hearing this adage, and I realized it\u2019s not a victimless crime.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">Fraud is not just some data stream going back and forth. There\u2019s no real difference between a person who\u2019s been stabbed on the street and is actively bleeding out, and a fraud victim who\u2019s losing their finances, their identity, or even the ability to get a home, car, or cell phone because their identity\u2019s been so badly compromised.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">So, it really hit home for me. I just wanted to see what I could do to help. That\u2019s why I started pushing the envelope.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/div>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/p>\n<div class=\"transcript-entry\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"timestamp mb-0 pb-0\">[06:46]<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\"><strong>Marike<\/strong>: I think that\u2019s wonderful because it sounds like you\u2019ve got a real heart for the victims of these crimes, and you have real empathy for what they\u2019re going through. We definitely feel the same way. The impact of these types of crimes\u2014fraud, scams, etc.\u2014can be everything from emotional to monetary. It\u2019s not necessarily physical harm, but the impact is still really great.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">So, what types of online scams or fraud are you seeing most frequently, and how has this changed over the past few years?<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/div>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/p>\n<div class=\"transcript-entry\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"timestamp mb-0 pb-0\">[07:22]<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\"><strong>Brian<\/strong>: Right now, a lot of what we\u2019re seeing are investment scams and job scams. Crypto investment scams are one of the primary ones, where they lure people in to invest on a crypto platform and slowly pull money out of them, bleeding them dry.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">We\u2019re also seeing what I refer to as task-based scams. In these scams, the victim is offered a job, but they have to invest in the platform first. It looks enticing, and they get roped in. These scams can drag on. In many cases, we\u2019ll see these scams run for 3 months, and within that time, scammers can abscond with 1 to 3 million dollars easily.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/div>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/p>\n<div class=\"transcript-entry\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"timestamp mb-0 pb-0\">[08:44]<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\"><strong>Marike<\/strong>: Per victim?<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/div>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/p>\n<div class=\"transcript-entry\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"timestamp mb-0 pb-0\">[08:46]<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\"><strong>Brian<\/strong>: No, globally. In Canada and other countries, similar platforms can pull in even higher amounts depending on the case. But the ones we see in Canada are usually raking in about 1 to 3 million dollars within a 1\u20133 month timeframe.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/div>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/p>\n<div class=\"transcript-entry\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"timestamp mb-0 pb-0\">[09:03]<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\"><strong>Marike<\/strong>: So they really are playing the long game with the victim.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/div>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/p>\n<div class=\"transcript-entry\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"timestamp mb-0 pb-0\">[09:07]<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\"><strong>Brian<\/strong>: Yes, they slowly bleed them dry. You often hear about \u201cpig butchering\u201d scams and \u201cromance\u201d scams, as well as crypto investment scams. They just keep pulling more and more money out of individuals, starting with smaller payments\u2014typically anywhere from just a few hundred dollars. They\u2019ll entice individuals to see how they could potentially invest.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">If they\u2019re unsure, they might start with a smaller initial investment, say $500, just to get them on the platform. Once the victim becomes more comfortable, the amounts increase\u2014$15,000, $20,000, or even more. It\u2019s not uncommon for some victims to invest upwards of $100,000, or in some cases, $900,000 to $1 million each.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/div>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/p>\n<div class=\"transcript-entry\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"timestamp mb-0 pb-0\">[10:12]<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\"><strong>Marike<\/strong>: And I know you mentioned the term \u201cpig butchering.\u201d I know this is a term that came out of China, sort of this idea of fattening up a victim before, you know, taking as much from them as you possibly can. It\u2019s a little bit of a shaming term. Unfortunately, we don\u2019t really love that this is now the term we\u2019re using to describe this. But can you tell us just really, briefly, how this type of scam, this conversational, social-engineered scam might get started? How does it work?<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/div>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/p>\n<div class=\"transcript-entry\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"timestamp mb-0 pb-0\">[10:43]<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\"><strong>Brian<\/strong>: Yep, absolutely. I\u2019m of the same mindset. I don\u2019t like the term. I don\u2019t typically use it. Even in the charge packet I did recently, we did a press release a couple of weeks ago on a big investment scheme task-based jobs scam, where we laid charges on five individuals in BC.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">But the term \u201cpig butchering,\u201d as it relates to these scams, involves an individual who\u2019s a master of social engineering and manipulation. They\u2019ll start conversations with someone, usually buttering them up with compliments or promises of great returns, wonderful guarantees of investment. They work on gaining the victim\u2019s confidence, slowly building that relationship, whether it\u2019s a romance scam or another type.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">Once that trust is built, they begin the scam. They start slow at first so that the person isn\u2019t shocked. If they start large, the victim would get suspicious and likely run away, but by starting slow, they can keep them in the game. The scammer will keep giving just a little more encouragement, creating a sense of urgency.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/div>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/p>\n<div class=\"transcript-entry\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"timestamp mb-0 pb-0\">[12:40]<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\"><strong>Marike<\/strong>: So, they really build trust and relationship. How they make those first few initial contacts isn\u2019t like the immediate, obvious tell in email scams or text message scams. They come at this from a more benign form of communication, earning trust over a long period of time before the ask.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/div>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/p>\n<div class=\"transcript-entry\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"timestamp mb-0 pb-0\">[13:03]<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\"><strong>Brian<\/strong>: Exactly. I\u2019ve seen cases where scammers have talked to victims for months before asking for a single dime. By that time, the victim feels like they know this person, and when we ask, \u201cHave you ever met this person in real life?\u201d the answer is usually no.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/div>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/p>\n<div class=\"transcript-entry\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"timestamp mb-0 pb-0\">[13:56]<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\"><strong>Marike<\/strong>: I\u2019m glad we\u2019re talking about this because it\u2019s some of the lesser-known tactics. The general public is more aware of the things they can immediately pick out in their inbox or from messages they receive, but this is much sneakier. It doesn\u2019t often get the public\u2019s attention, or they don\u2019t know about it.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">So, one question I have is, without revealing any sensitive details, can you give us an idea of how an investigation unfolds on your side? How do you trace digital footprints or coordinate with other agencies, for example?<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/div>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/p>\n<div class=\"transcript-entry\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"timestamp mb-0 pb-0\">[14:42]<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\"><strong>Brian<\/strong>: That\u2019s a very, very good question. And this is one that I always try to explain to the individuals I work with, whether I\u2019m investigating their file directly or assisting another member. I try to convey the timeline they\u2019re looking at and what steps we\u2019ll ultimately have to take, because it\u2019s a shock to many people\u2014it\u2019s not like what you see on CSI.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">These things don\u2019t get completed in 24 to 48 hours. It takes a while. Sometimes our fastest return is about 6 months; other times it can take 1, 2, or even 3 years to find every piece. But ultimately, we have to look at what data we have now and what can be acted on.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">So within Canada we&#8217;re confined by what it says in the Canadian criminal code, as far as what we can actually do. So if, say, we&#8217;re dealing with an investment scam where we know a platform online was used. We know there were telephone and emails involved. And there were payments that were made. Okay, well, what kind of payments are we looking at? Were those payments in cryptocurrency? Were they done through a financial institution at a bank or a payment application system. Okay, so we know those things we can follow up with all of those. If I go to a bank and say, hey, I want the banking information for this account. Well, that bank&#8217;s gonna tell me to pound sand and come back for the warrant because it&#8217;s private information. We cannot, as law enforcement, take that information for our investigative use, because the law says that that data belongs to the bank and to its client.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">So, what I have to do is I have to sit down, and I have to draft out a document it&#8217;s called an information to obtain. And it&#8217;s literally a story of the investigation that explains to a judge that here&#8217;s what&#8217;s happened, here&#8217;s the crime that&#8217;s been committed, or that we suspect has been committed. And this is data that we know exists out there. And this is why we think we should have access to that data. And then we take that to the judge. Judge reads over it and says, Yeah, that&#8217;s acceptable or no.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">And if they think that that&#8217;s acceptable, they sign off on the warrant, they hand it to us and then we give that to whatever company we&#8217;re looking at. Now that typically has a timeframe attached to it of minimum, usually about 30 days. Sometimes it can be even longer.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/div>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/p>\n<div class=\"transcript-entry\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"timestamp mb-0 pb-0\">[17:54]<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\"><strong>Marike<\/strong>: That company actually has to produce the data.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/div>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/p>\n<div class=\"transcript-entry\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"timestamp mb-0 pb-0\">[17:58]<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\"><strong>Brian<\/strong>: Once we get that, then we look at all the data we have. Now we&#8217;re looking at the next line, and the process repeats over and over. Now with it we look at a variety of things, from addresses, phone numbers. to IP addresses involved and any kind of correlation point that we can.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">So, if we see a name pop up well, we&#8217;re going to then communicate with our external partners. Other police agencies, either here in Canada or abroad and ask, do you have any dealings with this individual? What about this address or this phone number? What do you have? And we do quite a bit of collaboration with other agencies. And we&#8217;ll talk with agencies here in Canada. We&#8217;ll talk with agencies in the Us. Or wherever else.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">With the current digital age, we&#8217;re seeing a lot more collaboration between agencies where we can actually talk with them. We can share data. We can move a lot more freely. And it really depends upon the country. Some of some of those agencies are in countries that are really bound by heavy restriction, and so they can&#8217;t really cooperate and talk to us as freely. But others, you know we can. We can go to them. And they&#8217;re like, Yeah, here you go, you know, whatever you need. You know, it&#8217;s not uncommon for us to contact, say, a police agency in Australia or in the Island nation of Seychelles and get cooperation out of them, and it&#8217;s getting better. It still has a lot of steps to go for that collaboration to be efficient to where we can actually get data faster.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/div>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/p>\n<div class=\"transcript-entry\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"timestamp mb-0 pb-0\">[20:02]<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\"><strong>Marike<\/strong>: Does this collaboration with other entities sometimes speed things up, or can it complicate the investigative process?<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/div>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/p>\n<div class=\"transcript-entry\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"timestamp mb-0 pb-0\">[20:09]<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\"><strong>Brian<\/strong>: It can really go either way. Sometimes it greatly enhances the process, especially if we&#8217;re working with an agency or a country that will speak freely with us. In those cases, we can speed things up really fast. They may have the ability to get things through their judicial process faster than we can.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">Other times, though, I had one case where we sent an information package to a country, and they got back to me a year later.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/div>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/p>\n<div class=\"transcript-entry\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"timestamp mb-0 pb-0\">[20:50]<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\"><strong>Marike<\/strong>: So investigations are taking longer than victims might expect when they report a scam?<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/div>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/p>\n<div class=\"transcript-entry\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"timestamp mb-0 pb-0\">[20:57]<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\"><strong>Brian<\/strong>: Yes, absolutely. And unfortunately, especially in the digital world, if things go too long, we may risk losing any potential data. In Canada, we typically have a retention span of about 7 years. Financial institutions and many companies maintain data for 7 years, sometimes a little longer.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">But if it goes past that 7-year mark, the chance of us getting any data is very small. Every now and then we get lucky, but if we&#8217;re waiting for collaboration from another agency, and it goes past that point, unfortunately, we\u2019ve lost the opportunity, and we have to look at other avenues.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/div>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/p>\n<div class=\"transcript-entry\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"timestamp mb-0 pb-0\">[21:50]<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\"><strong>Marike<\/strong>: Yeah, you can only do what\u2019s within your jurisdiction, and then you\u2019ve got to wait for others to give you the information. So how often do these types of investigations end in an arrest? Is that common or not common?<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/div>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/p>\n<div class=\"transcript-entry\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"timestamp mb-0 pb-0\">[22:08]<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\"><strong>Brian<\/strong>: With most of these, the vast majority of them will end up with a warrant for arrest. Now whether or not it&#8217;s a warrant we can act on is another story. A lot of the scams we\u2019re seeing lately are initiated outside the country, such as in Nigeria, China, Vietnam, the Philippines, and India\u2014some of our top hotspots.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">But they usually have one or more entities inside Canada, or at least North America, involved in some way, either as a money mule\u2014someone who\u2019s moving money for the scammer, usually allowing them to use their financial accounts\u2014or someone else involved in things like the direct chat, account takeovers, etc.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">In those cases, absolutely, we can act. I\u2019d say maybe 50% of the files I look into have a player within North America, the other 50% are purely overseas, and there\u2019s nothing we can act on.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">Even if it\u2019s in a place where we can\u2019t act, like a country that doesn\u2019t cooperate with us, we can still send intelligence information through Interpol to let everyone know about the scammer, and we can put out local warrants here, so if they ever try to come to Canada, we can deal with them then.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/div>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/p>\n<div class=\"transcript-entry\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"timestamp mb-0 pb-0\">[24:14]<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\"><strong>Marike<\/strong>: So for those scams where the scammers are located internationally, and for the percentage where there isn\u2019t a player within North America or within Canada, does the information you share ever lead to an arrest by authorities within that country, such as the Philippines, Vietnam, or China?<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/div>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/p>\n<div class=\"transcript-entry\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"timestamp mb-0 pb-0\">[24:39]<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\"><strong>Brian<\/strong>: Sometimes, it really depends on the country and the file. Some countries have a high level of corruption. For example, if you have a police officer in Lagos, Nigeria, going to do a door knock to arrest a suspect based on the intelligence we have, and if that officer is just looking for a bribe, then we\u2019re done.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">But we do see action from time to time, though we usually don\u2019t hear about it. I had a case with a romance scam where we knew it was perpetrated by five individuals in Lagos, Nigeria. I sent an information package through Interpol to Nigeria, and I never heard anything back. However, my complainant received a phone call from the scammer, who was very angry because he had just done 6 months in prison in Nigeria for that scam. We had no idea, and it was the scammer himself who told our complainant that he got arrested.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/div>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/p>\n<div class=\"transcript-entry\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"timestamp mb-0 pb-0\">[26:10]<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\"><strong>Marike<\/strong>: Well, it must be great to hear sometimes that at least there\u2019s something actionable happening. But I\u2019m sure everyone listening would be heartened to know that there are consequences taking place for these scammers. But it sounds like the deck is stacked against you, in a sense. Because they\u2019re crossing international borders, you\u2019re very reliant on other countries to take action. It\u2019s not necessarily within your direct power to take action against the criminals. That must not feel so great sometimes.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/div>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/p>\n<div class=\"transcript-entry\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"timestamp mb-0 pb-0\">[26:43]<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\"><strong>Brian<\/strong>: No, and it\u2019s honestly very frustrating for the victims. And that\u2019s where we, as investigators, have to wear multiple hats.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">It\u2019s one thing for me to sit here and surf through 4,000-plus pages of data for an investigation and just look at it as hard data and facts. My role is to find who did it and make sure the bad guys are held accountable. But I also have the role of being a public servant, ensuring that the victim is taken care of.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">Let\u2019s go back to the analogy of the stabbing victim. We take them to the hospital for treatment and care. What about the fraud victim? I can find the person who did it, just like I can with the stabbing, but I also have to make sure that I provide the care as well.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">We have to make sure the victims understand that, okay, our hands may be tied here, but here\u2019s what we can try to do, here\u2019s what we can help with. We\u2019ll try to put them in connection with services, or at least let them know, \u201cHey, we know they\u2019re not going to be held accountable here, but we\u2019re going to put as much information out as we can. We\u2019re going to expose them as much as we can with the international community and our partners.\u201d<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">And on the off chance they come here, here\u2019s what we can do. It\u2019s not enough. It\u2019s never going to be enough because their personal space has been violated, their identity has been compromised, and in some cases, their lives have been ruined.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">But we have to try and do whatever we can. And even if it\u2019s just sitting on the phone with them, or sitting in person with them, and listening to them\u2014letting them rant and rave for half an hour\u2014that\u2019s okay. Because at the end of the day, we have to be there for them.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/div>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/p>\n<div class=\"transcript-entry\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"timestamp mb-0 pb-0\">[28:54]<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\"><strong>Marike<\/strong>: Sounds like supporting victims who come forward is just as important to you as the investigation side.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/div>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/p>\n<div class=\"transcript-entry\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"timestamp mb-0 pb-0\">[29:00]<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\"><strong>Brian<\/strong>: Yes, absolutely. At the end of the day, they are the victim.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/div>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/p>\n<div class=\"transcript-entry\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"timestamp mb-0 pb-0\">[29:05]<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\"><strong>Marike<\/strong>: Are there any particular resources or programs you point them toward? You know, toolkits or special organizations for Canadians who are dealing with this and have been victims of fraud?<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/div>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/p>\n<div class=\"transcript-entry\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"timestamp mb-0 pb-0\">[29:17]<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\"><strong>Brian<\/strong>: Yes, definitely. There\u2019s a number of things we can do depending on the issue. If it\u2019s related to identity fraud or personal credit issues, we always refer people to one of two types of services\u2014paid services for identity and credit monitoring, as well as free services.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">I always recommend that people sign up for one or both of these services. Personally, I use them. Thankfully, knock on wood, I haven\u2019t been a victim of identity fraud, but if I ever am, I\u2019ll know about it because I have credit and identity protection.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">You have Equifax and TransUnion, which are great paid services. You also have free services like Credit Karma and Experian, and a quick Google search will show you options.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">When doing a Google search, be cautious and don\u2019t click on the sponsored links. Scroll down and find the unsponsored links. Sponsored links are sometimes ads from scam sites.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/div>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/p>\n<div class=\"transcript-entry\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"timestamp mb-0 pb-0\">[30:47]<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\"><strong>Marike<\/strong>: And for those who don\u2019t know, you get those sponsored links at the top of your search engine. They\u2019re the ones that are paid for by businesses, which could be legitimate or scams. You\u2019re suggesting we scroll down to get beyond those sponsored links.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/div>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/p>\n<div class=\"transcript-entry\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"timestamp mb-0 pb-0\">[31:03]<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\"><strong>Brian<\/strong>: Yes, exactly. It\u2019s always better to be safe than sorry. You can check the sponsored links later, but you need to scrutinize them more carefully. Otherwise, there are a lot of trusted resources available. For example, the Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3.gov), run by the FBI, is a great resource. They provide lots of helpful information and updates on scams.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">The Canadian Anti-Fraud Centre also has a lot of resources on their website. I always encourage people who\u2019ve been victims of scams to report them to both, even if they\u2019re in Canada. You can still report your scam to IC3, because it puts it in their database, which helps us spot trends.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/div>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/p>\n<div class=\"transcript-entry\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"timestamp mb-0 pb-0\">[32:17]<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\"><strong>Marike<\/strong>: It\u2019s important for law enforcement to have visibility on the landscape.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/div>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/p>\n<div class=\"transcript-entry\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"timestamp mb-0 pb-0\">[32:20]<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\"><strong>Brian<\/strong>: Absolutely. Because the biggest thing is, if we don\u2019t know about it, we can\u2019t look into it. If we don\u2019t know what\u2019s happening, there\u2019s nothing to investigate. The only way we\u2019ll know is if people tell us.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">It can be a scary thing, and a lot of people feel ashamed. But there\u2019s no shame in it. These scammers are master manipulators. They know exactly what they\u2019re doing. This is their full-time job, and they\u2019re good at it.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">If they weren\u2019t good at it, you wouldn\u2019t have people like me getting paid to do what I do. I\u2019d love the day when there\u2019s no more need for this job, and they say, \u201cWe don\u2019t need you anymore because there are no more scams.\u201d That would be wonderful.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">But other ways that people can really start looking to protect themselves, there&#8217;s website checkers out there that&#8217;ll give you an indicator if it&#8217;s a scam. One that I frequently use is scamadvisor.com. You can look on there and it\u2019ll tell you potentially, if the website&#8217;s a scam or not.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">If you have been the victim of a remote desktop connection scam, that\u2019s where these tech scammers get you to download a program and then they will start moving your mouse around to show you how your computer&#8217;s been hacked. It hasn&#8217;t been hacked. It\u2019s just people who are on there actually hacking your system at that point. There is a program that people can download. It&#8217;s called Seraph Secure.com. That is a program that people can download, and it&#8217;s free, and it will actually cut out all of those connections. So that their device will now be secure.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">Another one that they can check out is a password and account checker that I always recommend people to see if there&#8217;s a data breach that&#8217;s going on with that email or password. It&#8217;s a difficult one for me to pronounce. But if you look into it, go into Google and type in, have I been PWNED. You&#8217;ll be able to find it. And that&#8217;s a great resource. Just to see if there is a data breach and see if you need to change your password, which I always recommend. People do at least every few months.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/div>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/p>\n<div class=\"transcript-entry\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"timestamp mb-0 pb-0\">[35:16]<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\"><strong>Marike<\/strong>: I think that\u2019s wonderful to know. And just to plug, we\u2019ve got some great free tools at Trend Micro as well. You were talking about a URL checker, and Trend Micro has one too\u2014a global site safety checker. It\u2019s free to the general public, and they can simply copy and paste a URL into the tool to check if a website might be potentially a scam.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">But you\u2019re right\u2014there are some great security tools out there that can tell you if you land on a malicious website. For example, Trend Micro has one where you can literally take a screenshot of anything on your phone, and it will automatically check and tell you if it looks like a scam, whether it&#8217;s a conversation or an ad. It can even help identify scams in romance scams.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">And, for those romance scams you were mentioning earlier, there\u2019s also Deepfake Inspector, which can check if the image or video you\u2019re looking at is manipulated with AI tools. This software can alert you if it\u2019s a deepfake.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">So, can you tell me, as we\u2019re wrapping up, do you have a memorable case you\u2019ve worked on that you can share with us? You seem to have such a heart for these victims. Perhaps there\u2019s one you could describe for us and tell us how it unfolded and what happened in the end?<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/div>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/p>\n<div class=\"transcript-entry\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"timestamp mb-0 pb-0\">[37:01]<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\"><strong>Brian<\/strong>: Yeah, absolutely. One case that really stuck with me was from 2022. It involved a romance scam, and it had been going on for quite some time.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">The initial contact was made by an individual who had come to Canada from the Philippines and befriended an elderly lady here in Edmonton. He told her he was being deported and wanted her to check in on his friend over WhatsApp.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">This contact quickly started saying things like, \u201cYou sound like a wonderful person. I want to get to know you more.\u201d They started developing a relationship over WhatsApp, and that went on for about 3 to 4 months. Then, suddenly, the scammer said, \u201cI really want to meet you, but I have this hurdle I need to get over,\u201d and the first one was a customs fee.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">He started asking for money, and initially, it was through gift cards, but then it transitioned to wire transfers, then crypto, and a bunch of other platforms.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">What we found was that this victim was actually sending money to another victim who was also being manipulated by the same individual running the exact same scam. The second victim thought, \u201cOh, I\u2019m getting money for my love overseas,\u201d and sent it off to the scammer\u2019s platform.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">So it became this large web of money mules.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/div>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/p>\n<div class=\"transcript-entry\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"timestamp mb-0 pb-0\">[39:38]<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\"><strong>Marike<\/strong>: Very common.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/div>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/p>\n<div class=\"transcript-entry\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"timestamp mb-0 pb-0\">[39:38]<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\"><strong>Brian<\/strong>: Yes, very much so. That\u2019s usually how they do it\u2014victim A sends money to victim B, who then sends it to an actual money mule, someone who\u2019s culpable in the scam, and it eventually makes its way to the main target.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/div>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/p>\n<div class=\"transcript-entry\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"timestamp mb-0 pb-0\">[39:57]<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\"><strong>Marike<\/strong>: Oh!<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/div>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/p>\n<div class=\"transcript-entry\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"timestamp mb-0 pb-0\">[39:58]<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\"><strong>Brian<\/strong>: They slowly developed the relationship, and the victim kept giving more and more money. As they became more involved, they grew more desperate. The scammer could see this, so they started playing on that fear and urgency.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">After about a year and a half, our victim had lost $220,000.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/div>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/p>\n<div class=\"transcript-entry\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"timestamp mb-0 pb-0\">[40:29]<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\"><strong>Marike<\/strong>: And I\u2019m sure that was a significant amount of money for that victim.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/div>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/p>\n<div class=\"transcript-entry\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"timestamp mb-0 pb-0\">[40:33]<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\"><strong>Brian<\/strong>: It was. She had exhausted every bit of her finances. She had remortgaged her home for the scammer. And you\u2019re talking about someone who was living on a pension, in her seventies. She had paid off her home, but now she was carrying a lot of credit card and line-of-credit debt.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">Her ability to repay these debts was very limited.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">And when you\u2019re considering that it was just one victim, remember what I said about victim A, victim B? There were several victims all wrapped up in the same scam.  I continued to work with our victim, checking in with her regularly. She kept sending money because she was just so lonely. Even during the investigation, while we were digging through the data, she was still sending money to the scammer because of her emotional need.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">Ultimately, we traced all the cryptocurrency payments and wire transfers, and they were going to five individuals in Lagos, Nigeria.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">The main scammer\u2019s cryptocurrency wallets matched the social media accounts I found online\u2014these guys always leave their social media for us to find. I could see that this person was the one who had been communicating with her.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">The victim was so deep into the scam that when I approached her and said, \u201cYou don\u2019t understand, you\u2019re sending money to a scammer,\u201d she said, \u201cWell, I just want to see his photos.\u201d<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">We discovered that she had called him out as a scammer, and he admitted it, even sending her photos of himself. They were edited photos\u2014license plates and other details were cropped out.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">I told her, \u201cIf you want those photos, here\u2019s his Instagram with the unedited ones, where the license plate is still visible.\u201d It was the same photos she had been paying for.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">She eventually came around and realized the devastating impact this had on her. To this day, she\u2019s still struggling, but I check in with her every couple of weeks to make sure she\u2019s okay.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/div>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/p>\n<div class=\"transcript-entry\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"timestamp mb-0 pb-0\">[43:19]<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\"><strong>Marike<\/strong>: Brian, it sounds like you have such a passion for supporting people who have been impacted by this.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/div>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/p>\n<div class=\"transcript-entry\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"timestamp mb-0 pb-0\">[43:26]<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\"><strong>Brian<\/strong>: Yeah, definitely.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/div>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/p>\n<div class=\"transcript-entry\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"timestamp mb-0 pb-0\">[43:27]<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\"><strong>Marike<\/strong>: To me, that sounds unusual for someone in your position, who\u2019s probably extremely busy and has a lot on his plate, to continue to reach out and support victims after the fact. That tells me you really care, and you have a big heart for the work that you do.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/div>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/p>\n<div class=\"transcript-entry\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"timestamp mb-0 pb-0\">[43:41]<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\"><strong>Brian<\/strong>: Yeah, yeah. And I mean, sure, it eats up time. My queue for files is quite heavy, but at the end of the day, if I can take 10 minutes out of my day to call someone and check in on them, it could make the difference between them falling into a depressive state or pushing forward.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">It\u2019s traumatic for people, and sometimes just listening to them can make a world of difference.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/div>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/p>\n<div class=\"transcript-entry\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"timestamp mb-0 pb-0\">[44:12]<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\"><strong>Marike<\/strong>: And I suppose you\u2019re probably recommending to anyone who\u2019s been impacted by a scam to talk to family and friends, seek support from professionals if needed, because these things can be so far-reaching into our personal lives.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/div>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/p>\n<div class=\"transcript-entry\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"timestamp mb-0 pb-0\">[44:33]<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\"><strong>Brian<\/strong>: Yes, absolutely. The biggest thing is to talk about it. It\u2019s not shameful. Anyone who wants to shame or blame a victim doesn\u2019t understand what it\u2019s like to be trapped in these scams.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">I scroll through scam chats all the time, and I can see how convincing these messages are. The only reason I know it\u2019s a scam is because I work in the industry. Otherwise, I\u2019d be just like any other victim.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/div>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/p>\n<div class=\"transcript-entry\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"timestamp mb-0 pb-0\">[45:10]<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\"><strong>Marike<\/strong>: We know that victims can be anyone\u2014from CEOs to security professionals, to anyone. They can target anyone. The idea that someone is too gullible or that it&#8217;s their fault just isn&#8217;t true. Anybody can be the victim of a scam.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/div>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/p>\n<div class=\"transcript-entry\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"timestamp mb-0 pb-0\">[45:37]<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\"><strong>Brian<\/strong>: Oh, absolutely. I know police officers who\u2019ve fallen victim to scams. I know prosecutors who\u2019ve been scammed. It\u2019s not because they\u2019re dumb or greedy\u2014those are misconceptions people often have about scam victims.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">You\u2019re not dumb. You were manipulated by a master manipulator, and it wasn\u2019t greed. Fraud isn\u2019t about greed. It\u2019s about need.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">Look at the global economy\u2014people are struggling with rent, mortgages, and grocery prices. They need money to survive, so they look for other sources to try to live more comfortably.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/div>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/p>\n<div class=\"transcript-entry\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"timestamp mb-0 pb-0\">[46:32]<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\"><strong>Marike<\/strong>: Cyber criminals potentially present them with an added income stream or way to make more money, which is very enticing. We can all see how that happens. So, Brian, one last question: If viewers remember only one thing from this conversation, what would you want them to know about online scams and working with law enforcement? What\u2019s your key takeaway?<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/div>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/p>\n<div class=\"transcript-entry\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"timestamp mb-0 pb-0\">[46:58]<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\"><strong>Brian<\/strong>: One of the key takeaways for people is two-pronged. First, stop, think, ask, wait, and collaborate.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">If you see something, stop and think for a second. Is it too good to be true? As the old saying goes, if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">Stop and think about it. Ask your friends and family, \u201cHey, I saw this. What do you think about it?\u201d<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">Wait a little bit, so you can go back and rethink it. Collaborate with your loved ones to determine if this is legitimate.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">The scammer, on the other hand, will push you to act immediately, creating a sense of urgency. If it can\u2019t wait 12 hours, it\u2019s probably a scam.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">The second thing is, don\u2019t feel ashamed if you\u2019re the victim of a scam. Report it to us, report it to IC3, and the Canadian Anti-Fraud Centre. We need to know about it.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">Nine times out of ten, people who are victims of scams won\u2019t report them to us.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">A big Ponzi scheme we investigated had over 600 victims across Canada, but only 8 people reported it.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/div>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/p>\n<div class=\"transcript-entry\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"timestamp mb-0 pb-0\">[48:48]<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\"><strong>Marike<\/strong>: There is a lot of underreporting. We know that\u2019s an issue.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/div>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/p>\n<div class=\"transcript-entry\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"timestamp mb-0 pb-0\">[48:49]<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\"><strong>Brian<\/strong>: Exactly.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/div>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/p>\n<div class=\"transcript-entry\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"timestamp mb-0 pb-0\">[48:49]<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\"><strong>Marike<\/strong>: So definitely, you\u2019re saying: take a pause, talk to those around you who care, get a second opinion, and if something happens, don\u2019t hesitate\u2014report it.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/div>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/p>\n<div class=\"transcript-entry\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"timestamp mb-0 pb-0\">[49:09]<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\"><strong>Brian<\/strong>: Yup, that\u2019s right. You\u2019re not going to get in trouble for filing a report. Even if nothing can be done right away, at least we can see the trends, and maybe down the road, your report will be pivotal in connecting the dots.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/div>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/p>\n<div class=\"transcript-entry\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"timestamp mb-0 pb-0\">[49:38]<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\"><strong>Marike<\/strong>: That\u2019s really wonderful to know. Brian, we really appreciate you taking time out of your busy schedule to speak with us today. We\u2019re grateful for the work you do and for sharing your insights. We also appreciate the challenges you face while doing this work and supporting victims.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">For those who tuned in, we hope you\u2019ve taken away some valuable information. Please note that we\u2019ll have more sessions coming up. Our next one is on May 7th, when we\u2019ll be speaking to the CEO of the Identity Theft Resource Center. Another important conversation, and we look forward to having you join us then.<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\">Brian, any parting words before we end?<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/div>\n<p><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->        <\/p>\n<div class=\"transcript-entry\"><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"timestamp mb-0 pb-0\">[50:42]<\/pee><!-- [et_pb_line_break_holder] -->            <pee class=\"transcript-text\"><strong>Brian<\/strong>: No, I can\u2019t think of anything. 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